Sunday, July 11, 2010

Saxophone Review: Buffet 400 Alto Sax

Lots and lots of saxophones come into my shop, from the cheapest no name student brands to the most expensive and prestigious name brands and everything in between.  I play them all so that I can evaluate their condition and also whether or not they are a viable deal to the potential buyer.  The first time I sat down and played  a Buffet 400 alto sax was one of the biggest and best surprises I ever had.

Buffet is one of the most famous name brands in the music industry.  They make what are probably the most widely played clarinets in the world.  The company begins its history with Denis Buffet-Auger who set up a small workshop in Paris in 1825 and quickly gained a reputation for making excellent 13 key clarinets.  In those days, clarinets were made entirely by hand requiring slow and meticulous work.  In 1830, Denis' son Jean-Louis Buffet took over the workshop, and when he married Zoe Crampon, they established the brand Buffet-Crampon.  In 1844, the logo for Buffet-Crampon was designed and is the one stamped on all of their instruments to this day.

Louis Auguste Buffet, Jean-Louis' uncle, was friends with clarinetist Hyacinthe Klose who was also the author of the famed clarinet method used by many clarinet students today.  Together they took the idea of movable rings which the German Theobald Bohm had developed for the flute and adapted it to the clarinet.  First exhibited in 1839, the new system was so successful that the Buffet-Crampon factory was built in 1850 in Mantes-la-Ville in order to meet demand for the new clarinets.

Buffet-Crampon began making saxophones in 1866, only 20 years after its invention by Adolphe Sax.  The first American made saxophone was built by Conn in 1888, and Selmer didn't begin making saxophones until the early 1920's, so Buffet was ahead of the pack.  The first saxophones made by Buffet were fairly faithful to Adolphe Sax' original design, as he was licensing them.
   However, by the latter part of the century, Buffet-Crampon began to change the keywork of the saxophone as it was known, and the company was a leader in the modernization of saxophone design.  They continued to make improvements in the mechanism throughout the ensuing years.



In 1950, Buffet introduced their Dynaction line of saxophones.  Many players and collectors will attest that this line of saxophones had slicker keywork and better action than the Selmer Balanced and Super Balanced Action saxes of the time.  In 1957, they introduced an improved version called the Super Dynaction which was the only saxophone of the time that posed a serious challenge to the vaunted Selmer Mark VI.  I know a couple of players who own them, and they swear it's the best horn they ever played.  I had a chance to play one 20 years ago and I was very impressed.  The action was super slick, the sound had the kind of darkness I like, but with lots of spread for either playing jazz or classical, or anything in-between.  On top of that, it looked like a work of art.

Unfortunately, Buffet-Crampon never gained the respect and popularity of their saxophone line as they had with their clarinets.  Selmer had cornered the saxophone market, and one thing I learned about sax players is that it's very hard to change their beliefs about something once they fix their minds.  They want to try everything out there, but they do so with a fixed attitude, and very few will admit that something is better than the instrument they swear is the best ever made because everyone says so or because they paid so much for it, how can a medium priced horn made in China even compare?  Fortunately, there are a few players left out there who have open minds and will judge something by its own merit, and not by its so-called reputation.

This brings me finally to the Buffet 400 alto, which is really what this article is about.  They also make a tenor and baritone, and I will review these later.  For now, I'm concentrating on the alto because that is my primary sax.  Let's get one thing out of the way here.  Yes, these saxes are manufactured in China and Buffet does not conceal this fact.  Good for them I say.  What they have is over a hundred years of sax manufacturing experience behind them, and they know how to impart this on whoever is building their saxes. It is important to put away any prejudices about this and consider the company behind its production.  Besides, manufacturing technology has improved immensely over the years and the factories they are made in are new and modern.  One thing was obvious to me when I first tried one and that was that Buffet had a vision about what they wanted to achieve with this line.  Personally, I think they have achieved it beyond what could be expected.  I do know that Mike Smith, artist/production manager for The Music Group/Keilwerth saxophones was responsible for the technical design, especially the alto.  When the saxophones arrive at the Buffet USA headquarters in Jacksonvill FL, they are inspected by product manager Matt Vance who also oversees the whole 400 line.
I had the opportunity to play both the lacquer and the matte finish horns.  In both cases I was surprised in a way I would not expect.   Before I even saw the horns I was impressed.  The 400 series saxophones come in a beautiful ProTech like rectangular case which is solid and well made.  It is blue and has handles on the top and side as well as built-in backpack straps with a webbed and cushioned back for extra comfort when you're carrying it..  There is a large pocket with a zipper that can hold books and accessories.  The Buffet-Crampon logo is embroidered on the pocket in gold thread.  There are two clips that close over the top and bottom part of the case for extra security. The case lets everyone know you're carrying a classy instrument.


When I opened the cases of the lacquer and the matte finished saxophones, I was greeted with the sight of a beautiful work of art.  Both instruments were beautifully engraved from bell to neck and on the keys and on the inner rim of the bell.  The Buffet-Crampon logo is beautifully stamped on the bell, and the bell brace is solid and also has the Buffet logo on it. The gold lacquer had a deep honey color to it.  The matte finish was very well done. On both horns I could not detect any flaws on the finishes, even minor ones.  When I picked up the horns, I felt like I was holding a quality instrument.  They felt solid and had weight behind them, nothing shoddy here.  The keywork was solid and the keys just snapped into place, feeling as good as any Selmer, Yamaha or Yanigasawa that I've played.   The keys were cupped so the fingers would fit neatly into them.  The bell keys had double braces for extra snap and better seal.  On both horns, everything was fit nice and tight.  No loose keys, nothing out of place.  These horns were inviting me to play them.


The first one I played was the matte finish sax.  A quick side note here.  Both horns were set up properly by the shop technician, so they were in the best playing condition.  My advice to any player is that any horn, regardless of make or price point should be set up first in order to truly evaluate its mechanical and tonal qualities.  I test play every saxophone with my usual set-up, which is a Meyer 6M mouthpiece, Rovner 1RL Dark ligature with LaVoz medium reeds.  I've tried lots of different set-ups over the years, but this is the one that works for me.  I can accurately judge a horn's qualities with this set-up.  What happened when I blew the first notes on the horn completely took me by surprise.  At the Buffet 400's price point, I would expect a fairly decent generic saxophone sound.  At its worst I would expect it to sound like a top grade student horn.   Instead, what I got was a full, strong and lush tone that just jumped out of the horn.  If you've read my article on the Conn 6M, you know that I favor that sax over anything else.  Putting all prejudices aside, I had to admit that I was playing what is a serious challenge to my beloved old horn.  The tone was strong and very well centered.  Intonation was spot-on.  The action smooth and solid.  Whew!  I just didn't expect this from a horn whose price is just around $1650.00.  I played jazz, classical and even Beatle tunes, and it just made the transitions of musical styles with ease.  With some horns, they either play jazz well, or are made for classical, etc., but very few can make the stylistic transitions that the Buffet 400 could.  


                                                                                                                     
I was playing a saxophone that is as good as anything out there.  Just to be sure I wasn't fooling myself, when  a friend of mine who is also a sax player came into the shop, I asked him to try the horn and see what his opinion was.  He blew into it and after he ripped out a scale, he stopped and said, "Damn, this m%@##&*%er plays".  There was a lot of power in this horn.  The sound is initially dark, but you can push it and brighten it, but without the harsh and fuzzy edges that some modern horns can have.  The gold lacquered model was only slightly brighter but had the same versatility of the matte finished model.  This saxophone is able to cover a wide range of musical styles and tonal qualities.  Whatever you want to play, this horn can handle it.  I continued to play on it over the next two weeks and nothing could shake my opinion about it.  This horn was as good as anything out there at any price.  As good as my beloved Conn, as good or better than any Selmer, Yamaha or Yanigasawa.  You may not want to believe this, but that's just the way I found it to be.  Sure enough, someone purchased the same horn I was playing for those two weeks after spending several hours trying out several other name brand saxes.  He had the same reaction as I did, and now he could own a top quality horn and still have money left over to buy a mouthpiece, books, and a bunch of accessories.


Buffet-Crampon has re-entered  the saxophone market with a strong product.  This is a saxophone that I could easily make my primary horn, a sax I would be proud to take to any gig.  It looks good, it plays good, it sounds great.  Then there's the price point.  At around $1650.00, depending on the dealer, you are paying an intermediate price for what is essentially a pro horn.  I personally think that it's the best saxophone deal out there.  At the inflated prices of the top name brands, you could buy two or three of these horns.  It is time to put aside any pre-conceived notions and give these horns a try.  I know that it's sometimes difficult to get rid of old prejudices, but I think you'll be as surprised as I was.


























                                                                                                      

15 comments:

  1. Is it possible to get information on the Buffet 400 Tenor? I am also interested in how it compares to other instruments, although that would be the topic of perhaps a less public conversation.

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  2. You can visit their website

    www.buffet-crampon.com

    Also, you can view pics of them in detail at

    www.saxquest.com

    If you should be in the NYC area on August 23rd, The Buffet-Crampon NYC Showroom is having Saxophone Day from 12pm-6pm. Guest artists, including Victor Goines will be there, and you can try out their horns. The address is 160 W. 48th Street, between 6th and 7th Avenues.

    These horns will compare favorably with anything out there. My only suggestion is that you get it properly set up by a reliable technician. Once you do, you'll have a great horn without breaking your budget. The cost of horns these days makes this probably the best buy out there right now.

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  3. Hi having read your comments on the buffet 400 alto, i have to agree,i am an ex mkvi tenor player now playing a reff 54 tenor but also have a buffet 400 alto which i think is a brilliant horn,somewhere between a selmer and a yanagisawa. anyone wanting a good alto with a good strong tone and what i think is a great action then go get one. I also have a vintage series 3 buescher alto true tone which has a slightly mellow huskier sound than the buffet but still for the money the buffet is a winner

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  4. Thanks for your comments. I will pass them on to the NYC Buffet Showroom manager. She will be pleased to know that.

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  5. Hi, I'd like to say aswell how much I enjoy playing the vintage version of the 400. The quality is excellent for a mass produced product. Even the neck strap is good. I have just recently purchased the tenor 400 in vintage and I am equally as inmpressed. I managed to get a good price here in the UK from Howarths of London. I am still a relative beginner of just half a year but I really look forward to playing each day. PS I love the vintage finish and the quality of the case- I wish I could go somewhere to show it all off! I would like to see more of these around.

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  6. Does anyone know how the Buffet Crampton 100 Series compares to other Saxophones on the Market?
    mgh

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  7. I have not tested the 100, but I am guessing that since it is made as a student level horn, it will compete favorably with other saxophones in its class, both in price and performance.

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  8. DEar Sir,

    Please can you tell us how to contact the Buffet Company in Jacksonville Fl. We need to refinish a super dynaction Alto Buffet. My husband bought it in the early 60's Made in Paris France.

    I cannot find the company on the internet. Many thanks, Mona Karst tsrak@msn.com 301-332-8471

    !!

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    1. Contact the Buffet New York Showroom located at 153 W. 36th Street in Manhattan. They just relocated there so I don't have the number but you can find them on Facebook and on the web.

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  9. I purchased the 400 series buffet alto saxophone gold lacq about 6 months ago. I had researched reviews such as this, but never had a chance to see one in real life let alone play it. From my own personal experience this horn is awesome. Besides the fact that it is beautiful, it does play great and that is what it is all about. When I first got it I took it down to the sax guy to get it all checked over and adjusted, and he told me that he had to do very little and actually it would have been fine right out of the case with no service, but he did do a little work here and there so I suggest you have your sax guy look it over as well. Oh, but this is made in Asia so it has to be bad!!! Well I am telling you that I don't care where it was made, it is a darn good horn. I also will mention that I have tried many good mouth pieces on it, and the mouthpiece I favor is the one that it came with. I don't have a clue what type of piece it is as there is no writing on the piece, but I have tried about five $125 range mouthpieces that have not been any better than the one it comes with. The reason I am making a comment is because I am just an average guy who likes to play the sax and I wanted to read about this sax before I bought it so I thought I needed to contribute to possibly help others. Take care, and thanks for the awesome review! It helped me decide to get one great alto saxophone for a reasonable price.

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  10. If the mouthpiece works for you, then go with it. Too many players have a bad case of mouthpiece-itis, as one of my articles discusses. I am glad that my review helped, and I stand by it. It is one of the best horns out there at any price.

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  11. My son received a Buffet sax from the school sponsored "rent to own" company. I can't find any reference to the model to see if I'm over paying. I got an e-mail back from them saying it's a BCB101-1-0 model. Can't find a thing on the internet. They indicated that it's a level up from studant because it has brass keys..It's $52.00 per month for 34 months + $8.00 for insurance. I know the insurance is awesome for a 12 year old..I get that. But still like to know more. Can anyone help? japfel@wowway.com Jeff

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  12. My son received a Buffet Crampon sax from one of the school sponsored "rent to own" companies. I can't tell if i'm paying too much. $54.00 a month for 34 months plus $8.00 per month for insurance. I get that the insurance is awesome for a 12 year old.. Just want to be able to compare and can't find one like they told me it is. Buffet BCB 101-1-0 They said it was a level up over a studant model because it has brass keys or valves? forgot. Is it a good one? Do better buying??
    Thanks! japfel@wowway.com

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  13. Just drove 416 miles round-trip to try one out. It was used by a music major and recently out of the shop, having been readjusted. Played one note - then a scale from top to bottom and I paid him there on the spot. I owned Selmer Serie II Tenor and alto and when my alto was stolen I thought I'd be hard pressed to find something else I liked as much. I'm in love with the alto again! This thing blows every bit as well as my long lost Selmer and so much better than the Yamaha 23 I've been filling the time with that I couldn't wait to get home, lock the door and spend an hour with it. Great horn and more than worth the money!

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  14. your review of the buffet 400 inspired me to buy one a year ago, and i must say you were correct, its a terrific horn.
    then i got the itch for a mauriat 67 R after reading you other review of it, so i pulled the trigger and bought it . However, i was quite disappointed . it sounds very thin up high, very bright and the tone lacked focus and direction...
    using the same meyer 5M with a 2.5 rico royale. i love the look of the 67 and was wondering if a different mouthpiece for the mauriat would make a difference.. otherwise, i am keeping the buffet and selling the other
    best

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